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voters in twenty one e.u. nations have cast their votes on the final day of the european parliamentary election with exit polls showing huge gains for euro skeptic parties across the continent. as well add lines also of course ukraine's candy king declares himself winner of the presidential race after exit polls. we're talking there about the italian journalists that have been killed in ukraine we've got an update on the pictures slightly at the sink you know what we're talking about and that's the two russian journalists that have been released as well we've got their story as well from life news of course released on the. ship with them a little bit later. to go back to what i was saying
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the parliament voters in twenty one e.u. nations cast their votes on the final day of the european parliamentary election exit polls showing huge gains for euro skeptic and far right parties. among this week's other top stories russia and china strike a landmark gas deal worth four hundred billion dollars it's moscow's largest energy contract in decades as it turns its business priorities eastward. hello this is art international first than ukraine's chocolate king is in line for a sweet victory it appears all the go up here to put a shame because declared himself winner of the presidential race though fifty percent of the vote according to exit polls much of the country's restive east boycotted the ballot amid the escalating standoff between the ukrainian military
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and local self-defense forces artie's paulus lee has been following the count. these are the first exit polls that have been published and they do put pyotr pushing co in a clear lead giving him some fifty five point nine percent of the vote now he was the winner from the start but it wasn't clear that he would garner the more than fifty percent majority needed to start off a second round of voting and it was some speculation that this might affect need to happen the certainly is not the case he beats by more than forty percentage points you need to machine code who comes in in second position at twelve point nine percent by and large in the west of the country where i am today's elections when talk relatively soon with me there were some more than four hundred reports of violations but nothing too major the situation was very different in the east of the country where my colleague where we are now joins us now rio what's happening
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where you are. both sunday has been a tough day for the spot over the country representative of the self-proclaimed republic off lugansk claims that the ukrainian military has opened fire at one of the local cough is killing and injuring civilians while we are hearing from you crazy interior ministry that there has been a shoot out at a polling station there and one man was killed at a large scale military operation is now in full sweep in ukraine's south and east and this is one of the major reasons behind the decision of many people not only officials and not totally those who belong to the self-proclaimed republic of donetsk and lugansk but six all the ukrainian regions all of the south and east to boycott the presidential vote iraq casualties included in one civilian population just one of the recent victims we hear it have altima tallinn reproved and he's interpreter they have been caught in a battle near the town of slovyansk just kilometers away from where we are now this
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small town has become. the main target of counter terror operation now let's take a listen to watch eyewitnesses say about what happened there. they got out of the car and started taking photographs and that's when the shooting began i got scared and jumped into a ditch and waved at them hoping they do the same so we were sitting in the ditch and then the mortar shelling started our ditch was hit then i saw that the interpreter wasn't moving and the reporter who was near him crawled up to me collapsed and also stopped moving. we came on the far as soon as we arrived at the village of andre i fell to the ground the driver left us and when i regained consciousness i realized that i was injured by gunfire continued as i tried to leave the area my colleagues were on the ground and i did not know whether they were dead or alive i reached the road and some car picked me
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up and i arrived here. well as you can see this situation is really tense in this part of the country and it is really very hard to talk about results of the country's presidential elections in a situation when people say they're more concerned about their lives and their security then about any political issue. well talking about people have been caught up with it news of those two russian journalists they returned home after almost a week in detention in ukraine they've been speaking about their ordeal they were captured by the ukrainian military nicky's terrorism more details and then just a little bit later a few minutes from now. let's focus next on the man looks very likely than to take the top job in ukraine the new president there we're talking about people to put a shame because the man himself with a lot of money worth around one point six billion dollars the other confectionary company also various media assets as well that he has pledged to get rid of all
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that as many takes office politically poroshenko has been on good terms with three successive presidents very different presidents some of the key points of his c.v. meantime in two thousand and two he was head of the budget committee but then five years later he became one of the bosses of ukraine's national bank couple years ago then he became economic trade and development minister for an affairs expert such a trip of it to skeptical about where the end of the day is the real right choice here for ukraine. we knew in advance he would get more than fifty percent that's what washington needs it right away and that's what he got he was speaking a little bit earlier i just want to play a little grab for a second so what he had to say a bit earlier on. we are ready to negotiate with russia with the participation of the u.s. and the e.u. there are a lot of history is on the table but there are also issues crucial for ukraine in particular ukraine will never accept the referendum in crimea so it's not
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a man that can really have constructive dialogue with russia and vice versa do you think given what he's just said i think he now has to indulge in this nationalist rhetoric for the sake of his audience and his voters in the center in the west of the country he has been flexible enough in his political career to work with people of widely different convictions and political philosophies and programs when push comes to shove i think that his first interest is pushing his second interests but ashamed and then comes ukraine and everything else about those two russian journalists freed after detention in ukraine they revealed the death threats and abuse they suffered during almost a week in captivity they were seized by the ukrainian military and accused of terrorism and he. was at their first media appearance since they returned home. and i did see dechen spoke to the press about the ordeal indeed on the way to the
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building here i was giving this reminiscent of a massive online complaint save our guys which was undertaken by most of the russian media hollywood stars and everyone else to have these journalists released they did spoke about things happening to them which i could describe as completely atrocious they were detained a week ago in east of ukraine while trying to film an airfield during the. cranial authorities accused them of having weapons including a missile launcher and even coordinating the work of what they call separatists the two journalists of course who denied all such accusations they were trying to say that we are journalists and the first two days for them in the hall where they were sitting where a complete nightmare this is how they described it to us. they did not explain anything only held us at gunpoint. we tried to explain that we were journalists but in response they just beat us. judging by the acoustics and the temperature we
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realized that we were in some kind of hole in the ground covered by metal sheets it was terribly cold they didn't give us any food for two days only water in the evenings. when we heard two soldiers talking and they planned to shoot us when we went to pee and stage it like an attempted escape. going to where you know. told we would be executed at sunrise the guards asked us to give them our shoes otherwise they'd be ruined with blood. quantum very interesting detail they describe in the first forty eight hours spent in eastern ukraine is that they saw a man dressed in very professional uniforms who were not saying a single word so the two reporters suggested that these guys could have been mercenaries in any case that later on they were transferred to kiev and spend the rest of the week there not knowing what their destiny could be not knowing if their release will happen on saturday they were taking out. of the detention center presumably a ministry of defense or the as be you the security service of the grain detention
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center and taken somewhere only at the airfield they realized that they were taken home and when they asked whom they should thank for that the man who was courted them sad that don't worry guys you're now in the protection of the chechen president ramzan kadyrov so later they moved to grozny the capital of and now in the morning they arrived to moscow where they were certainly very emotional a man here in the life he was had go to some of the callers were even crying tears of joy when they saw their their released coworkers here in the in the headquarters of moscow. on the ukrainian election campaign trail the guest list has been a collector to say the least darth vader former u.s. so to state madeleine albright they both share the same space to name but a few will tell you why you know top ten must know facts about the presidential poll. the in the.
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this week the world witness what's been called the deal of the century russia set to supply china with four hundred billion dollars worth of gas over the next three decades the agreement was twenty years in the making it was touch and go right up to the last minute pilbeam followed the final negotiations for us. the deal was struck it sang my experience of the why of it in the end it was pen to paper yes i'm talking about these three big gaps from one hundred billions are you now my suit that will change the phase of the global industry. you know that china. is. going to cost to get it come to my to it seemed like a win win situation that is right now in china well it's got a one point three billion people population and they are. hungry and that's exactly
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why the auction has managed to rise at such a level for the last three decades that part of the space. is free here and that's because the country relies very much on cars in two percent of it and it was a great. leader and still it's something that we have to do is to have these banks find deals with the bank of china to keep this in there and that is that is the significance of the moment because we know that both countries are trying to move away from dependence on the u.s. dollar as well as the euro so it's been a very lucrative time here and sang life very exciting time and it's full of the strategic business relationship between russia and china which right now is a force to be. it's a heck of a lot of money four hundred billion dollars let's try and get to grips with the scale of it shall we say larger the g.d.p. of the third largest country sweden or twice the vote of everything maybe that
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qatar produces or without money you can send sixteen thousand suspects to roost of the stars or if you're garridge big enough i guess you want to that money could buy seventeen million brand new volkswagen golds and put that money on the line it took us a lot of working out this one hundred dollar bills it would reach to the moon and back and then to the moon. again it is that help take it in i don't know either where the more important thing is russia is going to get transporting all that gas all the way to china well let's take a look at its plan there are two pipelines already in place and another couple are either planned to run a construction ones here in siberia or the others of machine will be here as you can see in the far east that's one of the big import ones it's going to send gas all the way to vladivostok to liquid natural gas terminals which can then be shipped anywhere in the pacific we are so i guess about the wider implications of this deal if you lock the front door make sure the back door is locked as well and i think in this case the west has forgotten to lock the back door so our once
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they've actually imposed sanctions on russia russia or is sort of saying to the rest of the world ok you know you can lock the front door but i have a back door as well and the back door in this case is china so really i mean the west is actually pushed russia into doing a deal with china so on the one hand you know this is an economic deal but on the other hand it's also a political deal western energy companies that are trying to develop in russia would love to develop in asia and and suddenly it's now the russians and the chinese and i think those companies are very worried about being proud of that particularly the european companies this deal is something that is is really going to reverberate it's going to have global ramifications are beneath it gets into it india brazil i'm the rest of the brics countries as well or out from the far east back to europe now the european parliamentary elections are drawing to a close as we can exit polls show sweeping gains for both euro skeptic and for
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movements across the continent is going to speak to those people of his in brussels that for us peter quite a shake up then looks likely of the parliament. well it does look like we're headed for a new broom essentially in the european parliament a lot of these euro skeptic a lot of these people who have a lot of these parties who have been fundamentally opposed to the way the e.u. has been run over the last five years look like they will gain seats they've won over the electorate it does seem those numbers are coming into us right now as we. as i'm talking to you but we are yet we are set for this kind of change a change towards people that want to see a difference in the european union people that don't want to go with the quit the status quo they want to see. new policies come in new independents come in in many countries in germany we saw parties like alternative for deutschland alternative
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for germany come in that want to try and put a pin into the financial situation that is ongoing it seems like they will gain some seats and they're not the only ones but when those people gain these seats in the european parliament what exactly does it mean i had a look at what exactly they get once they get elected. this is what it's all about as seats in the european parliament is the result of a long campaign trying to get yourself noticed by the electorate and it's not bad work if you can get it being an m.p. is a truly wonderful job i calculate it with all the expenses they get paid for example that's an average and we will see about iraqi civilians who have euros while living a lifestyle where they can drink champagne every single night the best food travel first class sounds more great gatsby than great statesman but his party's fancy clothes but the e use own figures back up the high life image there is
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a very interesting figure and cocktail parties per year which more than three hundred nineteen thousand euros per year and cocktail parties in brussels that is spent another very interesting example is why do why does the e.u. have forty four and best interests and the caribbean. so the perks seem to be pretty good but what are the working hours like they have a system of the european parliament which is in the clear the so-so system which we sign on sawed off means all you have to do for that is sign in for five minutes and then you get your three hundred euros and the good you would have you want for those who do stick around the parliamentary chamber can provide a nice relaxing environment for a little snooze a chance to catch up on some reading and for one time to appreciate. artistic
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photography of course this isn't the way every m.e.p. operates some work tirelessly for their constituents but the amount of money that is paid which many european citizens would struggle to earn in a lifetime is leaving some realizing that these emperors aren't wearing any clothes they're. living on that on a different planet the people who pay their salaries what did we have in mind who wanted a single market we wanted to create a highly competitive area and we are far away from that across europe the polls have shown an increase in support for the policies being opposed to the way the e.u. is being run if they return m e p's in this next poll of entry session looks like it won't be a place for a bit of shift peter all of a. lot more to come off the break stay with me kevin though including big news for a russian hockey fans big triumphs and i would tell you without them in
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a minute or two. from tragedy so far for merely an attempt to legitimize current political realities this is how many see ukraine's presidential election after all this country already had an elected head of state in this election when millions of not even participate begin to tackle ukraine's enormous power. as a media leave us so we leave the media. by the sea pushes secure the. party there's a goal. for shoes that no one is asking with the guests that you deserve answers from it's all politics. are today.
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i married him join me. in part and finance for kerry interview and much like. only i'm from past and i want to. go one probably the morning now here in moscow so that russian joy russia with the last one the ice hockey world championships defeating finland with a score of five two in the final this marks a dramatic turnaround for the russian team because just a few months ago it was further than the dump the mouths of the olympics in sochi but russia stepped up its game for the tournament in belarus defeating the defending champion sweden in the finals fitted to qualify for a round score the final goal for russia in the final in belarus that's the fourth time that russia has won the world hockey championship since one thousand nine
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hundred ninety two. world discovered this week the identity of the second country to have almost of all of its phone calls siphoned off by america's mass spying program afghanistan was the mysterious country x. which had its domestic and international conversations tapped by the n.s.a. just like the bahamas did julian assange from wiki leaks made that revelation friday but not all whistleblowers were happy about it journalists glenn greenwald who's no facilitate the edward snowden's revelations had refused early it's a specify who country x. was even though he was quick to reveal the first one greenwald said he was anxious that innocent people could die in afghanistan if it were known well then after that essentially is subject cuse greenwald of censorship and went public about afghanistan before being were being widely monitored i talked to the director of the center for investigative journalism but how dangerous such revelations really
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are that it's been used in the past to denounce anybody who had information of this kind you're putting lives at risk you'll have blood on your hands all those sorts of arguments none of which turned out to be true and in fact in all the sun releases which were huge and voluminous in one of those was it was the government claim that all they'll be thousands of dead people it'll be a terrible disaster and of course not a single person was hurt let alone killed by all those disclosures you think in a way maybe greenwalt could have been pressured to keeping it quiet not coming out with a name afghanistan so i don't know it's a good question that many people are asking that what he's done is quite surprising but again we have no evidence of that we know that he's got a proper to kill the curious financial world ration ship with a very very rich man who is financing his operation. but so far this is the first hint we've had that there might even be a problem of some kind of other than that we haven't heard anything. online silicon
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valley's tech titans turning on the government to be honest about what's being watched google facebook into microsoft are among those demanding their customers right to know just how much they're being snooped on r.t. dot com has got more money for the change of the focus to the anti g.m.o. who goes global we're talking about this week if genetically modified foods leave a bad taste in your bio we detail that march against monsanto that was held across five continents. next the infamous animal facility you see lives crushed and many detainees still held there without trial some of whom say they'd prefer a death never of the incarceration they're putting up with this week activists rallied worldwide then for the closure of america's most notorious jail new york was the center of the protests in washington demonstrators marched on the white house at its heart is outrage over a definite detention of more than one hundred fifty people in guantanamo at least a dozen inmates remain on hunger strike and they're being painfully force fed by
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the u.s. military despite it being called torture by the u.n. human rights commission campaigners say they're battling the u.s. government's grave injustice as well as broken promises time and again by president obama to shut the prison when a port has more on why it's still open. i've said repeatedly that i'm done the close guantanamo and i will follow through on that trial time will be forced no later than one year from now when i was elected in two thousand and eight i said we need to close guantanamo i continue to believe that we've got to close guantanamo this needs to be the year congress lifts the remaining restrictions on detainees transfers and we closed the prison at guantanamo bay the highly contentious guantanamo bay prison has cemented a u.s. legacy of covert kidnappings waterboarding illegal detention and forced feedings more than one hundred prisoners starve themselves for roughly six months last year protesting the injustice forcing the u.s. president to appeal once again to an opposing congress for the island prison to be
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closed exactly twelve months later nothing really has changed kuantan amala still open prisoners are being force fed every day they're being held in conditions of solitary confinement and there is no word on when seventy seven of them still in the prison who have been cleared for release for years while ever get to leave one hundred fifty four detainees are still languishing at getting up but something has changed kuantan i'm a officials no longer eg knowledge hunger strikes officially calling them long term non-religious fasts instead force feeding is now called enteral feeding and the u.s. military refuses to disclose how many prisoners are being forced to endure this so-called standard procedure a procedure that wrapper most staff attempted to undergo legally leave we go unable to successfully complete due to the overwhelming pain he said he experienced
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a policy of the united states fighting to have a place where they can do whatever they want to do to people is still intact and this is what we're protesting along with a clear. of indefinite detention which president obama in particular has embraced the u.s. government opened get mail in january two thousand and two to house alleged terrorists twelve years later the majority of prisoners have proved to have no links to terrorism washington can't say the same about its ongoing links to torture and indefinite detention marina r.t. . pics of a with a short break coming up then crosstalk you're not international. why
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do candidates you smear tactics to get in office because it works if all that mattered about a candidate were their positions they would just hand out piece of paper with the guy's positions on them but that's not how it works people make choices based on emotions whether they are buying a can of pop or selecting their candidate it's the packaging that counts heck obama won at ages marketer of the year for one of his campaigns yet image is everything but in texas one hopeful for the lieutenant governor's chair has used arrivals of medical records against him the incumbent david do hearst has been able to use the medical records which were released by another candidate who dropped out to make his opponent look crazy because he was at a psychiatric hospital twice with around the clock observation for severe depression now is it ok to use this info in a campaign maybe the public should know if someone is crazy legally it's probably
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ok and yet it works but is hypocritical all of us are guilty of something and if you take our worst moments as a person then you can make anyone look evil this is the tactic of the week with nothing to offer the public so they hide behind slander they just want the position of power and nothing more but that's just my opinion.
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they say. hello and welcome to cross talk we're all things are considered i'm peter lavelle from tragedy to farce or merely an attempt to legitimize current political realities this is how many see ukraine's presidential election after all this country already had an elected head of state in this election when millions they not even participate begin to tackle ukraine's enormous problems.
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to cross out their presidential election in ukraine i'm joined by my guest in washington he's director of the rice institute for sort of being studies also in washington we have richard white's he's a senior fellow and director of the center of political military analysis at the hudson institute and in london we crossed alexander and across if he is a political commentator and a former kremlin adviser now boy schiff i could go to you first in washington i'm calling this program ukrainian farce is this hyperbole on my part i don't think so peter i think it is a farce masquerading as a tragedy right now there's really no point to this election but to try to legitimize the regime that was installed at the end of february with the armed cuckoo and half of the country isn't even voting and those that are are voting. basically voting for whoever was served up to them on a silver platter by the united states government and the coup and the coup regime so i wouldn't call this democracy i would call this a farce richard if i can go to you what is the point of this election here because you can make the point that it's going to alienate people in the east and south
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even more because they'll say this is not our president and you know what is the whatever is going to win it it's going to be an oligarchy or someone backed by an oligarchy how does that change the political calculus in ukraine i mean that's one of the biggest problems. you need to have some kind of authority and key have we got acting so far acting prime minister since an election is designed to. stole the didn't see on some government in the winter it's interesting it's not who in the us or russia or some might have expected it looks like it's going to be a person who has good business ties with russia but also has independent leaning so him this person might be a good compromise but in any case you need somebody you need some kind of electoral mandate for the government to claim the right to rule because as was pointed out it was since the position of the previous president we just haven't we haven't had
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someone who has seen electoral backing ok alexander how do you see this election here because again i mean it no matter how you cut it it's going to be a pro european pro-american figure that's what it looks like at least i don't really understand what's the point of this election because simply because of the new president. because then you were in judgment is that the president has less power now than the parliament he. has in the reading of the new solutions that don't matter worse by the way for there's a solution during the break which was really a shame but complain but very very staged. and it's really a difficult time to stem the finking because in this apart from the fact that. we have another case or that maybe it could be exploited to democracy exporting
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it through and i would come to. the benefits a wonderful experience to let you know with the goods which some companies for example supply broke so there's explaining that democracy it gets the benefits put to you should it struggles. and i see ukraine struggling you know we were after this election are going to see thing happening which would benefit the ukrainians. one of the great tragedies of what's going on in ukraine in my opinion and it goes all the way back to the february twenty first is that is allowed it is legitimized radical forces like right sector into the mainstream and i'm i'm very worried because no matter who is elected there people like right sector are going to say but remember we were the ones that pulled this off they are revolutionaries of one sort or another and i don't think they're going to let go of this process particularly since their arms it's very difficult to control the dogs of war one
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state slipped a leash one of the possibilities as richard millet it is that this new president if it is who we think it's going to be might try to set up overtures with russia and it certainly would explain moscow's. odd readiness to recognize the results but at the same time how much power and how much authority will he really have if the right sector decides to topple him just like to did and because they got away with getting rid of me on a cold which was to stop them from doing so again i don't see anything preventing them they're shooting at their own armed forces at this point because they're refusing illegal orders to massacre civilians so these people are obviously the real power in the country not some elected figure you know richard i would like to see some kind of legitimate authority in ukraine don't get me wrong and i am and i don't know who that possibly could be but you know it does seem very difficult to see that whoever is going to be elected there within a few weeks or
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a few months first they have to go to washington brussels ok i'll understand that but we're going to have to go to moscow too and i just don't see that happening in this environment particularly if this operation quote unquote anti-terrorist operation continues in the east. well i've missed two points there with this good comment but first i would think that whoever was elected. would first trying go to eastern ukraine and other party for it and for that he or she goes off to brussels or washington but you're right that a man will need a solution ukraine will require some degree of except and in moscow and brussels at least since i was at the level i think russia and the e.u. they're going to need to help the ukrainian economy recover and manage the difficult transition and say see now. and with respect to the what's happening with the right sector there is
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a disconnect when i was in moscow and on the show i hear a lot about that but elsewhere they they don't know nobody's been emphasising how strong they are outside that realm they don't appear to have much popular support and it's not clear to me i have the power to decide government for start a war with russia or anything like that they are going to be a small. group maybe five percent before and then i think their influence is seen over anthracis in the russian media because they don't appear to be that strong from other sources well richard but that's that's my point i mean they can't win elections ok that's obviously true and i think that this is what's worrisome because they may be a small group of people but it was a small group of people that kicked the power in during the coup february twenty first twenty second it was not a huge number of people in the boat you want to jump in go ahead. well peter i was
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just about to say that it doesn't matter whether they have five percent or fifteen percent support they believe that power comes from the barrel of the gun and they have guns so they're not going to care i mean they may not have much political influence but they have weapons they've torched people in odessa live they've attacked people elsewhere they've attacked the ukrainian armed forces that refused to execute illegal orders these are people who do not hesitate to murder folks that they don't agree with and that's a problem you can't have people like that in a country that aspires to be functional alexander when president putin was in st petersburg a lot of people commented about his reaction about the russia will respect the democratic wishes of the people of ukraine and it but he didn't say he respected the process and i think that's a very interesting point that most media didn't pick up on it but let me go with the russian angle here one of the most talked about comments that putin made is he
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said. where's the money where's the money now this is probably pragmatism on the part of russia they want to deal with somebody in in camp that they can deal with it's going to be up to the ukrainians if it's legitimate or not russia is not going to make that determination i think it's very difficult for. the moment to actually see i mean by these two i think president putin made the right sort of statement in the sense that he started to calm down things a bit because in the rest of the media obviously everybody was saying the question is. you know russia is putting pressure on russia russia wants to spurs elections to prove them and so on and so he's got to really say this but the problem really is that we need to see what will. choose the wednesday thursday and friday of the americans the european union card playing to the new president we're live on here. well that would be pushing him and saying look you have to be tough with
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russia you have to continue the strike to make you have to accuse them of meddling in our in your affairs even the king took the web you know that's they're saying that russian troops are on the ground russian intelligence offices are still in the eastern sale and sam said this this i think we have to take them and write this a new president will do it and probably he will respond to events and what he will basically be about and i have a strange suspicion that the people in the state department and in the in brussels don't really went this tension to subside i think they actually went the station to continue and this is where the problem is because the president well let me be i said and then the pentagon think the president well here because here bill it was watching because he was back and think so what about other people in brussels and washington you know saying to me what that they're doing because the campaign is
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about money you're correct you know where's the money coming from he's exposed will be expecting money to come from the e.u. and russia and then them going to show their military fine so he won't be very cautious he will have to be very questions he will have to accept just from them ok you're going to let me go let me go to richard now before we go to the break richard and that's a very interesting one how dependent will this new president be on the west. act anomic lee this person will need i mean the whole of the government's going to need some kind of economic assistance from the west and from russia and diplomatically the same i mean there's no there's definitely going to depend on outside forces but not exclusively the west i would think that they need russia's help at least if not proactive at least passively not trying to. to to contribute to what is a very vulnerable economy very vulnerable to five i think that this person if
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they're as intelligent as are likely to be will try and work out the fact all right richard i mean let me jump in here gents we're going to go to a short break it out to that short break we'll continue our discussion on ukraine staying with r.t. . this if. you. balance those things the security on one side and liberty and democracy on the other side we don't have any intention to egypt to touch me personally as long as he's peaceful as long as you talk with your hands you know to know when. you're not killing people in the. shotgun then it's up to you you beautiful whatever you want
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. you know. they say. welcome back to cross talk we're all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to mind you were discussing the election in ukraine. ok let's go back to the bush and washington over the last six months seven months on nothing good has happened to ukraine in the bush i'm afraid i'm pessimistic what are the possibilities of my down three now. i would say so far very low but ask me again in about a month or so the problem is whoever ends up getting elected however they end up
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getting elected is going to have to make some tough decisions and the feeling i get based on the previous track record of everybody involved is that this new person is going to continue with the combat operations in the east he is actually you or she is actually going to go to brussels and washington first and is going to ask for money and support from the west and the west alone not that russia would actually have any reason to support a government that's openly hostile to moscow so i don't really see based on a previous track record of this getting any better anytime soon i don't foresee that person actually taking action that would cause my down three if they do again let's see in a month's time now xander we've heard you say that he will call for my dumb three and a referendum on nato membership for ukraine i mean this this is not moderation this
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is not deescalation this is really going to irritate russia because we've seen the escalation on the russian part there quietly watching on. keep saying this so month after month month what russia watches but there are political forces in ukraine that really want to push this to the extreme first the way you do with the machine because because i'm going to scare them and i think that that's not on their moscow but this washington brussels and other kept a thirst that bad looking at her with a weird feeling you know that something she might do something which nobody wants to accept but the problem i think a commandment is that we could have a better member of the gox you know whatever happened so doing their actions it will not step some of that big bad most from trying to achieve their aims and that is what i think is crossing a lot of problems not look of course forgetting that the right wingers i expecting
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some sort of a way out they were made to go away they were never played on the arms and say ok thank you very much for that and i dropped right out movement so we won't have that in-fighting grow one every time and i just rammed that right there's the point of this election but first off these sides which had grown for each other for months within ukraine itself i'm sure very have some sort of an agreement because you can't really expect the new president to achieve anything if he's being under attack by two musharraf goodby adams and when he's watching because he's looking because of his back and actually probably with about the right sector and some of the you know individual not i was quite i'm outgrowing iran for example keep with that and the libyan people and smashing up properties and so on because i think that a good because as a witness there are many others that's why i don't really see anything pissy of
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happening as a result of this election at least for a while richard you said that maybe that first trip or of the next president should be to the east i don't and i don't even think he would be welcomed there what makes you think that he would be because if they're not participating in this election they could say who are you. i'm sure this person may not be welcomed by many there but i think that would be a very magnanimous gesture and the reconciliation process of course is going to be necessary i mean unless russia plans and acts the eastern ukraine there and that they're doing there are going to be part of the rest of ukraine and after some point there is going to be some kind of reconciliation. you're right there has to be reconciliation i think all of us have to agree with that but you know there's only one way of doing that and that is federalization or some kind of decentralization how long is it going to take because that's the only solution to this problem it's the only solution to keep doing what remains of the sovereignty
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of that state intact when you know the people in kiev going to wake up to that when will washington finally realize this because it's been on the table for quite a bit. well that's the problem peter because with every passing day and more violence and more people acting out their fantasies and living in ukraine as if it's an episode of game of thrones any sort of political solution is a reconciliation it seems far far off and more far fetched federalization was an option two months ago and there was a window of opportunity for it and then all of a sudden the provisional government decided to launch a military offensive and arm oligarchy like column on ski and have him essentially run his own private state i think that is the solution that seems most logical for to benefit everybody but the people involved on the side of the provisional government and i'm afraid to say some people in washington just don't want to see it happen because they don't want peace they want to conflict alexander what do you
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think russia's next move is going to be because i my thesis has been it's actually done very very little it's been watching here and i tend to think that the forces in the round in the other all agog they will turn on each other because russia hasn't taken the bait it is it wants to continue its business relationship with europe particularly its energy relationship and so does europe at the same time i mean the thing is is that in that western media and western capitals want to point the finger at russia but actually you have to point to the finger inside of ukraine itself right now. well i think peter festival i think crash is right in insisting that there is a ceasefire and that with your well off government troops from the east i will have to be honest with you i don't want to see anything changing in ukraine with them and the president the new president says about as far as a problem he says i'm till your camp regular troops killing people in their cities
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and towns there's nothing to talk about and i don't think that people in the east want to even think about any sort of negotiations or discussions that said that's it this time it least an intention to stem and state that that the new president is prepared to do that then we might see a very very small princess of some of reconsideration very slow as i stress and i think that the russian section that the men went should be heading away from c.p.s. you know sense that we don't care that there's still room but we can say we've been everything physically possible it's a specified semenya so so much to crave if that's not been behaving in the way we like and aggressive which is where it is always crowded it is a always showing sending signals to keep calm and guys get your cars in that we can stop panicking but we are content to let the moment when you have
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a similar way up in the respects about sense when you are using your troops to kill your own people so i think this crew is doing the right thing i think the better it was in the question of can you fight the manhunt very tough to convince the world and the russia as well but they can do the things that they can do without us and that they can provide basically a basic where they're going to basically when they're that in their own country which richard i think this is the real quandary here because. the next president will want to say he or she is president of all of the country but at the same time on the first day in office if the operations military operations against civilians and protesters in the east if that continues that's going to be a hard sell isn't it president of all of ukraine. yes now we've been emphasizing the. violence from the right wing right dr which is
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true but there's of course there's also violence from other groups and clean production nationalists but i mean that's something that they're going to have to deal with and i imagine that's going to require some security sector reform reconciliation federalization and i would object that federalization has been consistently by wash and i think that's something that people have discussed for a while now the need to. have genuine local self-government perhaps the centralized government functions and the concerns of course that doesn't lead to separatism but i think that's a logical way for the political thing to evolve over time. in the bush era what kind of political capital with this president because his powers or her powers will be diminished because of. the law the constitution has been changed probably illegally this is why i really worry about this the legitimacy of it it's always so dubious here but you could have a weak president no matter how you cut it ok and we still have
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a rump parliament where what thirty percent of the parties that were elected in the last election are not represented all there's a possible banning of the communist and i can go on over and over list after list of the problems that this new president's going to face and i can't see any light at the end of the tunnel at least at this point well the new president is going to start with very little or almost no political capital about the only thing that we have going for them is the fact that they got elected under however dubious circumstances and then all lot of it will depend on what they do next again if they called off that military operation in the east if they try to open up a dialogue that might help but so long as you have federal ization in the form of giving the. private armies that's not the way forward. and honestly the biggest challenge for this new president is to show that they are not a puppet of the west the they are not
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a puppet of anybody including the oligarchy inside the country and that they truly wish to bring ukraine back together and i don't see anybody willing much less able to do so you know alexander you know you can have all kinds of political colorations in ukraine but one thing stays all of arcs. yes unfortunately they're there but they have their own personal armies that buckling like mad and i think the infighting only intensified after this election because there ever was one to position themselves in a better way but let me tell you something else peter i've been talking to some key players in the york this week about what's going on i mean craig and i could some pretty interesting scenarios for example there is a place where the suggestion of course of this was a suggestion that the administration were pictured he agreed to do you stand yes got a little guns and decided that this is a price worth paying to keep the country to keep up. i'm saying this is not the
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place which has been oppressed by anybody but this is one of the suggestions but it's also not a suggestion ok which i think i wish he had started with your suggestions or because we have run out of time gentlemen fascinating program many thanks i guess in washington and in london and thanks to our viewers for watching us here darkie see you next time i can remember. some. of them but i also believe that it was ethnic cleansing a sportsperson it was an attempt to seize the opportunity to purge the polish presence from the territories do you craniums the leaders of the ukrainian
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insurgent army so i consider their own. genocide to his genocide and polls should never support an increasingly vocal opinions that the mass murder of jews should be considered genocide while the mask. murderer of poles shouldn't. go at all if you close the door on monuments to. shoot she gave each to watch close ski leave. and to many of those in ten up hill it is very alarming. you know it will come in the cream soda gave orders to kill completely innocent people and had thousands of civilians murders to do so but putting up a monument in honor of such a person is something that is completely beyond reason that.
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if you drive people away from the dollar many people now it must be sitting there saying gosh if we have u.s. dollars and the us decides they don't like us they're going to put sanctions on us so people more and more people will say maybe i should use the u.s. dollar. balance those things needed security on one side and liberty and democracy on the other side we don't have any intention to be just to touch any person as long as he's peaceful as long as you talk you're dealing with your hands and also knowing mixed you know killing people getting shot gun then it's up to you you beautiful whatever you want you express your feelings in the way you want but don't let anybody you don't punch or burn a building or a police station or whatever in this case you have to the face of the sequences.
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and. economic down in the final month. and the rest. will be every week on me please please. please. please. please.
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please if we demand explanations from kiev over the killing of journalists in eastern ukraine while russian t.v. crew feel the death threats they face detention. the presidential race after exit polls get. fifty seven percent of the vote in which regions refused to take part and may be ongoing military crackdown there. twenty nations have cast their votes a final day of the european parliamentary election with exit polls showing huge gains for euro skeptic and far right. place. among the week's top stories russia and china strike a deal worth four hundred billion dollars it's. been decades turns its
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business priorities. very welcome to the program you're watching r t international i'm going in only a welcome. our top story italy's foreign ministry is the mounting outrage from kiev over the death of an italian journalist in the village of on three have an eastern ukraine during a mortar attack on the area is the first reporter to have been killed in the conflict the thirty year old was covering the events in ukraine as a photo journalist for the just sort of news agency reports say he was with is interpreter on a french colleague when their car came under fire the interpreter who also was hailed the frenchmen was injured and managed to get to hospital let's hear what he
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and the taxi driver who was transporting the three men had to say about the attack on you we just. got out of the car and started taking photographs and that's when the shooting began i got scared and jumped into a ditch and waved at them hoping they do the same so we were sitting in the ditch and then the multi showing started i would teach was hit then i saw the interpreter wasn't moving and the reporter who was near him crawled up to me collapsed and also stopped moving. and he came on to far as soon as we arrived at the village of andre i fell to the ground and the driver left us and when i regained consciousness i realized that i was in with the gun fire continued and i tried to leave the area so my colleagues were on the ground and i did not know whether they were dead or alive i reached through and some cop picked me up and i arrived here. to russian journalists freed after the tension in ukraine have revealed the death
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threats and abuse they suffered during almost a week in captivity they were seized by the ukrainian military and accused of terrorism artie's alexy on a ship ski was at their first media appearance since returning home. dechen spoke to the press about the ordeal indeed on the way to the building here i was giving this reminiscent of a massive online complaint save our guys which was undertaken by most of the russian media hollywood stars and everyone else to have these journalists released they need spoke about things happening to them which i could describe as completely atrocious they were detained a week ago in east of ukraine while trying to film an airfield during the. cranium authorities accused them of having weapons including a missile launcher and even coordinating the work of what they call separatists the two journalists of course we denied all such accusations they were trying to say that we are journalists and the first two days for them in the hall where they were
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sitting where a complete nightmare this is how they described it to us. they did not explain anything only held us at gunpoint. and we tried to explain that we were journalists but in response they just beat us. judging by the acoustics and the temperature we realized that we were in some kind of hole in the ground covered by metal sheets it was terribly cold they didn't give us any food for two days only water in the evenings. with her two soldiers talking they planned to shoot us when we went to pee and stage it like an attempted escape. told we will be executed at sunrise the guards asked us to give them our shoes otherwise the balloons with blood. one a very interesting detail they describe in the first forty eight hours spent in eastern ukraine is that they saw a man dressed in very professional uniforms who were not saying
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a single word so the two reporters suggested that these guys could have been mercenaries in any case that later on they were transferred to kiev and spend the rest of the week there not knowing what their destiny could be not knowing if their release will happen on saturday they were taking out. detention center presumably a ministry of defense or the as the you were the security service of the great detention center and taken somewhere only at the airfield they realized that they were taken home and when they ask whom they should thank for that the man who scored them said that don't worry guys you are now in the protection of the chechen president of so later they moved to grozny the capital and now in the morning the right to moscow where they were certainly very emotional in the life he was had to go to some of the callers were even crying tears of joy when they sold their their release coworkers here in the headquarters of moscow. ukraine's that billionaire chocolate king is in line for a sweet victory. has declared himself the winner of the presidential race with over fifty seven percent of the vote that's according to exit polls as well much of the
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country's restive east boycotted the ballots and made the escalating standoff between ukrainian military and local self-defense forces artie's policy or is following the vote count in kiev. these are the first exit polls that have been published in may to put push nko in a clear lead now he was the winner from the start but it wasn't clear that he would garner the more than fifty percent majority needed to start off a second round of voting and it was some speculation that this might affect need to happen the certainly is not the case he beats by more than forty percentage points to the schenker who comes in in second position by and large in the west of the country where i am today's elections when talk relatively smooth me there were some more than four hundred reports of violations but nothing too major the situation was very different in the east of the country where my colleague maria now joins us
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now real what's happening where you are. both sunday has been a tough day for the spot over the country a representative of the self-proclaimed republic off lugansk claims that the ukrainian military has opened fire at one of the local cafe is killing and injuring civilians while we are hearing from you crazy interior ministry that there has been a shoot out at a polling station there and one man was killed at a large scale military operation is now in full sweep in ukraine's south and east and this is one of the major reasons behind the decision of many people not only officials to boycott the presidential vote. one of the cities keeping its distance from the election was donetsk the authorities there are martial law the authorities in kiev pledged to step up their military crackdown over the next few hours.
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earlier local self-defense forces held a parade in donetsk. kiev armed group calling itself the east battalion on its comrades who died in clashes with the ukrainian military as you can see here the volunteer fighters were warmly welcomed by more than around two thousand locals the rally was also a show of defiance against sunday's presidential election. so let's take a closer look at the man who looks very likely to wind. his fortune is estimated at around one point six billion dollars he owns a confectionery company and various media assets although he's pledged to get rid of all that when he takes office politically it has been on good terms with three successive but very different presidents some of the key points of the c.b. now he was head of the budget committee back in two thousand and two five years later he became one of the bosses of ukraine's national bank and in twenty twelve he served as economic development and trade minister earlier my colleague kevin
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owen spoke with foreign affairs expert. he expressed diets over whether pray shank is the right choice for ukraine. we knew in advance he would get more than fifty percent that's what washington needed right away and that's what he got he was speaking a little bit earlier i just want to play a little grab for a second set of what he had to say a bit earlier on which is we are ready to negotiate with russia with the participation of the u.s. and the e.u. there are a lot of history is on the table but there are also issues crucial for ukraine in particular ukraine will never accept the referendum in crimea so it's not a man that can really have constructive dialogue with russia and vice versa do you think given what he's just said i think he now has to indulge in this nationalist the rhetoric for the sake of his audience and his voters in the center and the west of the country he has been flexible enough in his political career to work with
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people of widely different convictions and political philosophies and programs and when push comes to shove i think that his first interests the support of his second being for those despite a shrink and then comes ukraine and everything else on the ukrainian election campaign three all their guest lists been a collector to say the least darth vader and former u.s. secretary of state madeleine albright shared the same space we tell you why in our top ten must know factor by a presidential poll. the european parliamentary elections are drawing to a close exit polls show sweeping gains for both euro skeptic and far right movements across the continent we can cross to peter all over in brussels who's been following developments for us peter hello to you so really it's
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a shake up for the e.u. parliament big changes. well you know what we're looking ahead to is a parliament in which the majority of the parties campaigned on a a manifesto of being unhappy with the way that the e.u. would be managed now we've seen gains for far right parties stream li euro skeptic parties all across the board most noticeably though we've seen in the united kingdom in austria in verandahs where my in the pair has been able to almost detoxify the front national party that had been viewed as far right as extremist as as anti semitic she'd been able to get them it seems a few seats also we're seeing votes for these type of parties in austria as well as in greece and in denmark no this is as i said gone all the way across the board
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in europe as people have voted those that have come out to vote we expect the official turnout to be slightly over the forty percent mark of people that have come out to vote in these elections but yet those that have come out a vote have come out to vote for it seems people leaning slightly to the right or certainly euro skeptic parties but those that do end up in office well the next challenges ahead for them and i had a look at what they can expect. reason i don't think. this is what it's all about as seats in the european parliament is the result of a long campaign trying to get yourself noticed by the electorate and it's not bad work if you can get it being an m.p. is a truly wonderful job i calculate it with all the expenses they get paid for example that's an average and we will save up iraqi civilians who have euros while living a lifestyle where they can drink champagne every single night the best food travel
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first class sounds more great gatsby than great statesman. party's fancy clothes but the e use own figures back up the high life image there is a very interesting figure and cocktail parties per year which more than three hundred nineteen thousand euros per year and cocktail parties in brussels that is spent another very interesting example is why do why does the e.u. have forty four ambassadors and the caribbean. so the perks seem to be pretty good but what are the working hours like they have a system of the european parliament which is in the cli of the social system which we sign on sawed off because all you have to do for that is sign in for five minutes then you get three hundred euros and the good you would have you want for those who do stick around the parliamentary chamber can provide
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a nice relaxing environment for a little snooze a chance to catch up on some reading and for one time to appreciate. artistic photography of course this isn't the way every m.e.p. operates some work tirelessly for their constituents but the amount of money that is paid which many european citizens would struggle to earn in a lifetime is leaving some realizing that these emperors aren't wearing any clothes they are living on that on a different planet than the people who are paying their salaries what did we have in mind we wanted a single market we wanted to create a highly competitive area and we are far away from that across europe polls have shown an increase in support for parties who've been opposed to the way the e.u. is being run if they return any piece in this next parliamentary session looks like it won't be a place for a bit of shuteye peace for all of a r.t.
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. now this week the world witnessed what's been. told the deal of the century russia will supply china with four hundred billion dollars worth of gas over the next three decades their grievance was twenty years in the making it was touch and go right up to the last minute artie's key polling followed the final local stations first the deal was struck eight sangbae it came to the wire but in the end it was pens and paper yes i'm talking about these it said three big gaps from one hundred pins on the do you not got my to china that would change the face of the global gas industry not the way you do not you know that china was the bargaining. process to get to come to my to it it seemed like a win win situation because right now we know that china well it's got a long point three billion people population and i and it's hungry and that's exactly why the function has managed to grow at such
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a level for the last three decades that does come at a cost michael says place certainly pollution the at it's three pm that's because the country relies very much on coal for seventy percent of the energy supply towards a more free lead on schools so that it's something that we have got to do see we have the cia back signed deals with the bank of china to do business in the right currency that is not me significant of the moment because we know that both countries are trying to move away from dependence on the u.s. dollar as well as the euro has been a free lucrative time here and sang life very exciting time and it's all about the strategic reasons for nations it between russia and china which right now is a force to be wrecked. let's take a look at the steel of the draw and bricking de lay agreement covers a thirty year period on china will be receiving russian gas at the saying price as
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your overall it has the potential become the largest energy agreement in history as i say worth. an estimated four hundred billion u.s. dollars transporting such a vast volume of gas is no easy task though the cross border infrastructure won't be fully ready until twenty eight doing two pipelines are already in place and another couple are either planned or under construction one is here inside bierria on the other is in russia's far east and also to note that this will send gas all the way to volleyball stocks liquid natural gas terminals which can then be shipped anywhere in the pacific we guess about the wider implications of the deal if you lock the front door make sure the back door is locked as well and i think in this case the west is forgotten to lock the back door so they've actually imposed sanctions on russia russia has of us saying to the rest of the well ok you know you can lock the front door but i have a back door as well and the back door in this case is china so really i mean the
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west is actually pushed russia into doing a deal with china so on the one hand you know this is an economic deal but on the other hand it's also a political deal a western energy companies that are trying to develop in russia would love to develop in asia and and suddenly it's now the russians and the chinese and i think those companies are very worried about being cut out of that particularly the european companies this deal is something that is is really going to reverberate it's going to have global ramifications i mean if it gets into it india brazil on the rest of the brics countries as well. there was another goal inside for russia and china in st petersburg this week too. when the deal with china comes to fruition it will become russia's biggest consumer along with germany but should the second project on the so-called western route be
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realizable china will undoubtedly take first place. that's what president putin revealed to the international media during the final day of the gathering we have more from st petersburg a little later. in the ice hockey world championship defeating finland five two in the final it marks a dramatic turnaround for team russia just a few months ago finland dumped them out of the winter olympics in sochi but russia stepped up its game for the tournament in belarus defeating the defending champion sweden in the semi then they took a come from behind performance against the fins to claim gold team stars alex ovechkin. both getting on the scoresheet in minutes it is the fourth time that russia has won the world hockey championships in the past seven years more news after a short break. how
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do you. balance those things the security on one side and liberty and democracy on the other side we don't have any intention to be to touch any person as long as he's peaceful as long as you talk you know more dealing with your hands you know throwing molotov mixed you know killing people getting great food. then it's up to you you beautiful whatever you want you express your feelings in the way you want but don't let anybody know you don't touch or burn a building or a police station or whatever in this case you have to the face of the sequences. we speak your language. news programs and documentaries in spanish matters to you breaking news a little turn to angles stories. so you hear.
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the spanish find out more visit. the ukraine crisis meant some business leaders stayed away from the annual international economic forum in st petersburg this week president putin hosted the event and had plenty he wanted to clarify regarding sunday's elections in ukraine who can stress that russia respect the will of the people there and will continue working with the new authorities but for dialogue to begin he says kiev's leadership must stop shooting its own people in the east of the country western sanctions the president say is haven't had a great impact on the russian economy instead he warned that they may have a boomerang effect damaging the very countries but implemented them that many at the forum say the restrictions won't affect their dealings with russia. i saw this
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morning in zero four on some presidency or french company and german too and you know was a stage say don't go too much to somebody. we are their soul that is it proves that you know we do which we won so the economy is stronger than. what we understand what his own interest is the relation between the ratio of our company is so long. and has to stay on this long term partnership it is in the interest of those companies because. for russia to europe is very important so i'm sure that this with asian would be maintained over years the idea is that if companies leave now i think it will be very hard for them to reestablish themselves at some point in the future and for the ones who do study the clear messages that. they're in the books have the most opportunities long term and i think generally
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people expect the things will as they have done a couple of times already. silicon valley's tech titans are turning on the government asking it to be honest about what's being watched google facebook yahoo and microsoft are among those demanding their customers right to know just how much they're being snooped on r.t. dot com as more and. also the anti g.m.o. movement goes global if generally modified foods leave a bad taste in your mouth we detail the march against monsanto held across five continents just take away. the world discovered this week the identity of the second country to have had almost all its phone calls siphoned off by america's my spine program afghanistan is the mysterious country x. which had its domestic and international conversations tapped by the n.s.a. just like the bahamas did julian assange is from wiki leaks made the revelation on
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friday but not all. whistleblowers were happy about it journalist glenn greenwald who is known for facilitating edward snowden's revelations had refused to specify country x. was even though he was quick to reveal it first greenwald said he was anxious that innocent people could die in afghanistan if it were known as. greenwald of censorship and went public about afghanistan being widely monitored i talked to well actually earlier kevin owen spoke to the director of the center for investigative journalism about how dangerous such revelations really are it's been used in the past to denounce anybody who had information of this kind you're putting lives at risk you'll have blood on your hands all those sorts of arguments none of which turned out to be true and in fact in all the sun releases which were huge and voluminous. the government claimed all they'll be thousands of dead people it'll be a terrible disaster and of course not a single person was hurt let alone killed by all those disclosures you think anyway
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maybe green will could have been pressured to keeping it quiet not coming out with a name afghanistan i don't know it's a good question that many people are asking that what he's done is quite surprising but again we have no evidence that we know that he's got a proper to cutely curious financial world nation trip with a very very rich man financing his operation. but so far this is the first hint we've had that there might even be a problem of some kind of a met we haven't heard anything egypt is doing up for a new election but will it manage to establish democracy or slide back into chaos that's an example of carry on our guests will be discussing next and worlds apart. why do candidates you smear tactics to get in office because it works if all that
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mattered about a candidate were their positions they would just hand out a piece of paper with the guy's positions on them but that's not how it works people make choices based on emotions whether they are buying a can of pop or selecting their candidate it's the packaging that counts heck obama won and ages marketer of the year for one of his campaigns yet image is everything but in texas one hopeful for the lieutenant governor's chair has used arrivals of medical records against him the incumbent david do hearst has been able to use the medical records which were released by another candidate who dropped out to make his opponent look crazy because he was at a psychiatric hospital twice with around the clock observation for severe depression now is it ok to use this info in a campaign maybe the public should know if someone is crazy legally it's probably ok and yet it works but it is hypocritical all of us are guilty of something and if you take our worst moments as a person then you could make anyone look evil this is the tactic of the week with
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nothing to offer the public so they hide behind slander they just want the position of power and nothing more but that's just my opinion. right. now i. want to get through. the side.
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hello and welcome to worlds apart egypt saw me has long played a prominent role in the country's domestic affairs especially so in presidential politics now as one of the honest decorated generals for a presidential vote is this really a change or rather a continuation of the. policies well to discuss that i'm joined by retired egyptian general safe. general safe thank you very much for your time. egypt has a very long to dition of having strong man with a military background president mubarak was an air force commander for thirty years before leaving the country he's predecessors also had
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a military background both on of our said. so. we now have a new very popular candidate and former general el-sisi who also has similar background. isn't this just a continuation of the same old polish is what is really different about the. candidates compared to his predecessors right it doesn't mean the gentleman with the background but if you're the ground meaning that he is a dictator over he is ruling the country in his own way people in egypt will not accept anything else but democracy so that's why the reason of having sisi as a candidate in the presidential election is the will of the egyptians he doesn't want to do i spoke to him. personally several times before getting the decision to take place and the as a kind that he refused but general you know that better than i do the army has certain influence on people and there is a very strong tradition of subordination in the army. army moves people into
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certain type of characters so if. you know it had its influence on president mubarak or his predecessors why wouldn't it have its influence on general sisi this time is different as i mentioned because on the thirtieth of june the egyptians do believe that general sisi saved the country from the muslim brotherhood hands but so i think many people believe the same thing about mubarak at least when he came to power until mubarak it didn't come with the revolution he came because that passed away but he was also seen as somebody who would take egypt forward to the future maybe in the first ten years because first ten years with i think the best time for mubarak group but the second ten years and the third to ten years it was something the question marks about that and people believe that he's getting old and cannot take decision and he's it's not like before now the egyptian
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army has always enjoyed a very strong support looked at some polls and it has to raiding over seventy percent the approval rating. among the people so i think it would be only natural for a military candidate or a string of military candidates to emerge why is this this feeling of trying to distance a political candidate from his military background what is there to be ashamed of i mean well nothing to be ashamed of but all in fact if you look to the american. regime you find that the rose full to eisenhower or george bush for that all of them they came from a military background so many many people in the ward. they came from a military background and people didn't talk about them and they said they didn't say that they have dictators or ruling the country because they are a from the army so it's a simple intuition easy to believe but. implying of course the. general rule is
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there's a right perspective dictator but i wonder if all those people who came from a military military base ground a city certain profile psychological profile management profile etc listen i came from and it's a good book but it's about growth of course as you know. we are disciplined and we know time is precious we know the old that has to be obeyed we know that there is no great color it's a black or white so way we we need to know in egypt ok but is not particular we need discipline in egypt we need stability so maybe a military guy or the i would say a civilian man with a military background to be precise is maybe the right person for the time being now armies all around while they're also characterized by a very strong sense of loyalty and protecting their own and yet when you look at what happened to president mubarak there is almost i mean from my side there is the sense of betrayal because the army am sort of give up on him very very quickly as
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did his former supporters and i wonder if the last three years of hardship in egypt allowed people like yourself or your countrymen to sort of free value of his legacy because it's it's clear that the ruling egypt is is not easy at all and i think general el-sisi would be very fortunate if you could bring it back to the economic stability of mubarak era i don't quite well and i talk to him a lot he is. very optimistic that egypt yes we have a lot of work differently this is not an easy job to do it's not an easy right it's going to be a lot of problems and tough decision has to be made definitely especially in the economical side special in the sub's of the site and people in egypt the beauty of . egypt is the people are ready to take from him only the tough decisions if any other guy would come and give them a tough decision tough time they may be would be very happy but they would accept
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it from him well i think we will have to wait till elections to your. are so tame that but i wonder if. you know when we look at the power over the last three years and injured it's been pretty violent i'm in regardless of who is in charge. you know people come to the streets there's bloodshed and so on and so forth why do you think the egyptian society is so prone to violence has a become this way over the last three years all maybe it has always been like that but the president mubarak was able to keep it under control the only reason is is a very simple reason it's one of these only is the aggression of the islamic fanatics is the muslim brotherhood and other groups who are supporting them who they believe in radicalism they believe in violence aggression and that's why we haven't seen this at all in the history which before since the pharaohs up till now but right now because the muslim brotherhood the phonetic people do believe in aggression that's why they are going to the direction that unfortunately now the
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interim government is now considering a law that will significantly broader in the definition of terrorism take it make it even broader than that during the the rule of mubarak and some suggested that this may be evidence of edge of sliding back to military control that is it even more tighter than what we witnessed during the days of a bar completely disagree with that the theory is when you face a group of your passions muslim brotherhood of throwing people from the twelfth floor from the roof which was so it was in the t.v. all over the world because they're christians because they're not muslims dealing wasn't a concerted policies by the party or as individuals who did that and kill each other all the world it's not true that because the orders comes from the muslim brotherhood it would go to the people in the street go and kill police officers go
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and kill military officers go on through people from the from the from the roofs i tell you what they burned sixty seven churches for nothing because they are christians it's not fair they forced three hundred seventy five families christian families to leave their homes because they're christians but general just before president morsi. was pushed out of office pew center took a poll of. may the polling in egypt and fifty four percent if i'm not mistaken fifty four percent of egyptians said that they they were approving of president morsi now you may argue that the number is smaller but it's obvious that he still has a lot of supporters still by. outlawing muslim brotherhood as a political force going to make things worse first first of all he won by fifty one point seven percent fifty four what i'm talking about approval rate ok. you know in the beginning it is still a very significant number maybe that in the first month in the first months when he
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came in the first month people are very optimistic including us that he maybe he would rule the country in a better way yes let's give him a chance but he came out within three four months that he's doing fatal mistakes until the last day of the one year of ruling the country he came on the twenty second of november two thousand and twelve and he said i am your god nobody can sue me nobody can take me to the court nobody can be a position in front of me i can do whatever i want and nobody can touch me we haven't seen this in all over the world well but. on the air the same time. doesn't have much experience in democracies so it takes time both for the society and for the leaders to. learn the ropes of the profession so let me ask you a question do you believe that a leader comes and tell you that i am a god you cannot to me don't touch me is this democracy i don't think this is democracy but i don't think you know pushing that leader out of office represents democracy while pushing we did not push well it wasn't
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a democratic transition or it wasn't exactly it was a democratic one definitely but street politics is very very dangerous especially in the middle is to look at what is happening in syria look at what is happening and see if you know you can call democracy any rally even if. you know on people over the in the crowd is it was the footage of as the from this looks like serious . syrians in the libyans believe in the same thing that they're different but coming back to the point why did you have to sacrifice your nascent democracy you know those very fragile democratic institutions that were only starting to take hold for the sake of. a person like morsi was he more important than egyptian democracy or let me in one second give you why egypt is different than libya for one min reason the egyptian army came and stood behind the scenes not the
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egyptians like it is in syria the army the syrian army there were quite a number of people killed on the streets as well i mean they are very hard to open fire against when they open fire against me again this is the same argument that assad government. again egypt is different because we in egypt we do have one radical group in syria it is many coming back to this idea of this radical group that is now essentially banned from politics they still have a lot of supporters whether you like it or not they still have a lot of supporters in edge of. the very obvious question is whether you know pushing them aside isn't going to radicalize them every day with not pushing them aside on the thirtieth of june when people decided to change morsi in fact the entire political group in egypt including the pope of the christians including the shake of her of the of the islam of the moderate islam as well as the head the
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leaders of the political parties in egypt all of them they came and the unknowns the unknowns but morsi is not anymore the president the. last of the muslim brotherhood to come and join that meeting and they said we are coming and decided not to come after that for two hours they were with it will do for two hours when we. the committee to write the draft of the constitution we also get them to come and join us and that's a problem because this is a very strong. question you said you are pushing them and no we did not push we believe in inclusiveness we believe in polarization they're no longer able to put forth their candidates. because the party is still ruling. with some of the wood. as terrorist by court order but the party itself the freedom and justice party is still working they did not arrest one person from their own party and their own party is to run to prove that in the parliamentary
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election after two months there will be doing be there and they will get seats i'm sure about well if i'm in i'm reading a lot of western reports and western media writing about activists thousands of activists including muslim brotherhood supporters being arrested on the eve of the killing people of course half an hour ago i got a call from egypt and they put a bomb under the normal car of a police officer and they killed him just half an hour ago we have to take a very short break that. we think if we think the. beach is. going to gently swaying in the ocean breeze. has
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welcome back to worlds apart to really discussing egypt's military and democracy with retired general some mass safe oh yes well general we just were talking about the manner. in which president morsi lost power or was how to lose power but even during his time in office the army intervened for example when he wanted to. send a gyptian troops to syria back in two thousand and twelve chips an army said no you know we can discuss that their visit advisability of that decision but wouldn't it be fair to say that the gyptian army feels that it has more power than the president that's not just definitely not right now that's not the situation during one year of ruling the country by mr morsi and his group of muslim brotherhood
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the army did not take one decision or in fact it helped them many times and i was there for the right things what about the syrian issue is very touchy and egypt is the largest army in the arab world and it is the tenth all me all over the world according to the statistics the israeli army is. an army is the tenth so we went and fought against. iraq quit and when egypt goes with the army outside is a very touchy we did that in yemen it was very problem problematic and we do want to be involved with now in the arab spring by you by force we want to leave people to take the decision in a peaceful way so that was the main decision why the army if you are speaking about domestic politics where this thing is the limit for gyptian army to intervene i mean. broadly speaking what are the conditions that it should never intervene politically don't touch but because of all. the different army since one thousand
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nine hundred four the revolution wasn't in fifty two but we had a military government for two years one hundred fifty to two hundred fifty four since one hundred fifty four the egyptian army does not touch the political side or do work as army and that's the goal now and wants to do that as well but that didn't apply to most of them of course during one year. by morsi again and we did not touch the politics but on the thirtieth of june when the people went in and the street and the army to come and support them the only ones that supported them just like with mubarak it's not the first time the country was falling down that's when the people wanted said enough is enough do you know you were very optimistic about the first revolution you believe. it will bring peace and prosperity to egypt and you know we discussed the first part why didn't happen. how long do you give it how long do you give the egyptian spring when do thing start delivering results
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before the army or some other government institution will decide to intervene and then correct his course i think the if you call between two brackets egyptian spring it will end on the seventh of june seventh of june would have no spring because that's will be the first day of the new president if he is going to be c.c. or not to take place in the presidency and to run the country so as of seven to do there is no egyptian spring is going to be back to normal a normal country is going to rule and that i think candidates clue the possibility of things going a wry i mean everything can happen people can change so. you know people come to office with one intentions then they decide to stay a bit longer a. bit longer you know there is a tradition of that in the middle east so. how long do you thing presidents sisi if he indeed becomes president has before you know people. start asking
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concrete results from his policy let me tell you two things number one you should consider the new constitution the saying that it is for use the period of presidency and to renew it only for one time so maximum is it it's not going to be like thirty years like mubarak or more than that so it's nothing people of egypt have enough patience now to wait another four years because the economy is in tatters and life is very hard i mean people who used to go to egypt cannot recognize the country. with tell people it's going to be a tough right don't ask me to my mother i'm not having a magic stick which i can touch things and it will go no it's not like that he would tell them the truth that the country is facing problems and during the one year of mr morsi he reserves what thirty six billion dollars right now it's only forty billion dollars the democrat that is over egypt in the central bank of egypt and that's why he did it has to be appear to be repaired it's not like one day work
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you have to be patient and you have to work hard he's going to tell them that. they have to work hard and they have to suffer a little bit of tough decisions like subsidy number three they have to wait i remember standing on the tougher square during the initial revolution and people were chanting breath freedom and human and injustice and. i think you know. tell me if i'm wrong but i think there is a perception at the west a look at the things that i'm most familiar to them and they seized upon the war and feed them but i my perception was that people were really asking for you know they wanted to see democracy and read what i thought that they can all make issues for a more pressing at the time than political issues and to be honest with the i didn't hear many people talking straight out about democracy they were talking about better living conditions about jobs and so on but this is something different from
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democracy yes you're right. this is imperative i would say the program of general sisi will talk about democracy in peril with the saving the egyptian economy from the issues now so we do have a deep problem we have a really. it's a economical. collapse but needs to collapse so that's why it needs a lot of work the point is he will tell them i can save this only during my time for instance health insurance you cannot do the health insurance in four years for ninety four million people but he would do with that then i would be going to phase one of that during my first four years education i'm going to do that part only to do to correct the dictation on my for four years same thing for the economy so he will not tell them he will not pay into the entire of a rosy picture for them and tell them i'm going to fix everything for you and the country isn't the problem with the arab spring in general not only over the edge of but libya syria as well as that people do you expect it too much too soon yes i
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remember being a libyan people were saying that we you know we were one the scene of standards of living just without get off here and obviously you know. up and i fully agree with you yes the expectations of the arab world all was getting higher because maybe the culture and the habits but they're speaking about democracy and you mentioned the candidate al says he has you know a special section in his program on democracy but democracy a man have many faces i think in the was there is this tendency of conflating street protests with democracy but street protests main may mean people rioting on the streets and you know carrying weapons and shooting others or it can mean people taking to the streets and demanding you know their liberties what is democracy as. you know desired by the egyptian people what they mean when they do you think it's very for things i think number one human rights. number two for the election the
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justice the justice to be forced to everybody a number for the needs of the basic needs of the people i think this is from our point of view that's the way we look at it in a democracy and i think it's maybe similar in many other countries as well everybody wants that well everybody wants that but not everybody can achieve that and if you look at your closest neighbor libya you know if they if they want to breed of the dictator you know their economy that's a available for them. but what you're seeing are the main difficulties that you may face as a country trying to move towards democracy and what will allow you to avoid all the hurdles that other countries you know. what is democracy because unfortunately even in our society we did not teach our people what is democracy because when he said it's my right to do that yes it is your right to do that but not to exceed my right
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for instance if i just give you a small example that a guy midnight it's putting his t.v. in a high volume because you watch a football match and you look to his door please i want to sleep i'm next door to you please no it's my right it's my home i can put it no it's not your right it's your right as long as you're not hurting me but the democracy as soon as the you heard me it's not your right it's my right as well and i think that you bring us to a very crucial point that democracy could also mean a very significant danger to security and i think this is what we're seeing in syria and probably in egypt to a lesser extent. how do you really for her person with a military background like yourself and so i think a very relevant question how do you. balance those things the security on one side and liberal democracy on the other side we don't have any intention to egypt to touch any person as long as he's peaceful as. as you talk you're not dealing with
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your hands you know throwing molotov mixed you know killing people don't carrying rifle or shotgun then it's up to you you beautiful whatever you want you express your feelings in the way you want but do not hurt anybody or you don't touch or burn a building or a police station or whatever in this case you have to face the sequences well but in order to bring society to that level you know it takes decades and some would argue that. if president mubarak was back in power he may have i mean if he was pressed into making reforms and taking the country there step by step. the transitional would have much smoother well i think the main issue for mubarak was that it was part of the issue but the main issue was not like that the main issue was he wants to hear it the presidency to his son and the army that's why you were asking few minutes ago why the army actually stood behind the egyptians against
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mubarak you asked this question few minutes ago i think because of that because the only those who want to see his son as president of egypt because he is the son. they want to make decisions about who should be the president of egypt i mean he could have run in the elections and if people supported. the army i mean isn't that ultimately the main danger to these nascent egyptian democracy that you always have this option of of a cure taker that is there behind the scenes and you know that it will ultimately come to your rescue i will i disagree again everybody was against the idea of his son to be our president because again if it's free election as i mentioned before most welcome we know it's not for the election and it's not fair that's not democracy that's why we need a free election and we don't believe it has to be inherited it's not a kingdom it's a public issue from a bar of tbilisi. obviously he represented one strain of political islam that didn't work out and injured but do you believe that political islam in
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general has any future in your country i would. moderate political islam but what do you mean by that is the kind. or i'm going to talk about egypt now i'm going to the ridiculous i'm going to aggression i'm going is going to we're talking with your hand two of them well muslim brotherhood and radical people like al qaida mostly brought of god then egypt for the first time in the history thanks to him the point is if moderate islam would do it political islam wants to could just like a north party salafist most welcome because that's what it is up but phonetic is that radical islam we are against that i am against many people claim that the arab spring go right because of the interference of too many other players around the region that it was not only to the people of up to the people of egypt libya or syria to decide on their future there are too many external actors do you think there is actually those countries that have their own interest in your country and
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in the region as a whole will lead to egypt to proceed as a twist i mean according to the wish of the wishes of the people we've seen up till now some of the hands fingers coming from outside the working against the now we learn a lesson that's why we decided to work hard and not at least to minimize the. feeling from outside well general i really appreciate your time and to our viewers please keep the conversation going on our twitter you tube and facebook pages and hope to see you again same place same time here in the world the pike.
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plenty. wonderful marginalize the college face between both. legs. a pleasure to have you with us here on our team today i'm sure. from tragedy too far for merely an attempt to legitimize current political realities this is how many see ukraine's presidential elections. after all this country already had an elected head of state in this election when millions would
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not even begin to tackle ukraine. explanation from kiev over the killing of one of its journalists in eastern ukraine while a russian t.v. crew revealed the death threats they face during their detention by the army. ukraine's can be king himself in the presidential race after exit polls give. fifty seven percent of the vote on election in which eastern regions refused to take part amid the ongoing military crackdown there. twenty one e.u. nations have cast their votes on the final day of the european parliamentary election with exit polls showing huge gains for euro skeptic and far right parties . on the week's top stories russia and china struck a landmark four hundred billion dollars largest energy contract in decades as it
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turns its business priorities eastward. it's just gone three in the morning here in moscow a warm welcome you're watching international union o'neill our top story italy's foreign ministry is demanding answers from kiev over the death of an italian journalist in the. eastern ukraine during a mortar attack on three is the first reporter to have been killed in the conflict the thirty year old was covering the events in ukraine as a photo journalist for the news agency he was with his interpreter on a french colleague when their car came under fire the interpreter was also killed while the french than it was injured and managed to get the whole. let's hear what he and the taxi driver who is transporting the three men had to say about the
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attack. on you we. they got out of the car and started taking photographs and that's when the shooting began i got scared and jumped into a ditch and waved at them hoping they do the same so we were sitting in the ditch and then the mortar shelling started our ditch was hit then i saw that the interpreter wasn't moving and the reporter who was near him crawled up to me collapsed and also stop moving while. we came on the far as soon as we arrived at the village of andre i fell to the ground the driver left us and when i regained consciousness i realized that i was injured by gunfire continued as i tried to leave the area my colleagues were on the ground and i did not know whether they were dead or alive i reached the road and some car picked me up and i arrived here. to russian journalists freed after the tension in ukraine have revealed the death threats only abuse they suffered during almost
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a week in captivity they were seized by the ukrainian military and accused of terrorism r t let's hear a sketch chef ski was up there first media appearances returning home. dechen spoke to the press about the ordeal indeed on the way to the building here i was giving this reminiscent of a massive online complaint save our guys which was undertaken by most of the russian media hollywood stars and everyone else to have these journalists released they need spoke about things happening to them which i could describe as completely atrocious they were detained a week ago in east of ukraine while trying to film an airfield during the. cranial authorities accused them of having weapons including a missile launcher and even coordinating the work of what they call separatists the two journalists of course who denied all such accusations that were trying to say that we are journalists and the first two days for them in the hall where they were sitting where a complete nightmare this is how they described it to us. they did not explain
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anything only held us at gunpoint. tried to explain that we were journalists but in response they just beat us. judging by the acoustics and the temperature we realized that we were in some kind of hole in the ground covered by metal sheets it was terribly cold they didn't give us any food for two days only water in the evenings. with her two soldiers talking they planned to shoot us when we went to pee and stage it like an attempted escape. going to be. told we will be executed at sunrise the guards asked us to give them our shoes otherwise the balloons with blood. but one of the interesting detail they described in the first forty eight hours spent in eastern ukraine is that they saw a man dressed in very professional uniforms who were not saying a single word so the two reporters suggested that these guys could have been mercenaries in any case that later on they were transferred to kiev and spend the
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rest of the week there not knowing what their destiny could be not knowing if their release will happen on saturday they were taking out. detention center presumably a ministry of defense or the as a view of the security service of the great detention center and taken somewhere only at the airfield they realized that they were taken home and when they asked whom they should thank for that the man who supported them said that don't worry guys you're now in the protection of the chechen president i was on of so later they moved to grozny the capital and now in the morning they arrived to moscow where they were certainly very emotional in the life he was had to go to some of the callers were even crying tears of joy when they sold their their release coworkers here in the in the headquarters of moscow. now ukraine's billionaire chocolate king is in line for a sweet victory pushing security south the winner of the presidential race with over fifty seven percent of the food according to exit polls much of the country's restive east boycotted the ballots amid the escalating standoff between ukrainian
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military and local self-defense forces artie's polis lear is following the current in kiev. these are the first exit polls that have been published and they do put. in a clear lead now he was the winner from the start but it wasn't clear that he would garner the more than fifty percent majority needed to start off a second round of voting and it was some speculation that this might in fact need to happen the certainly is not the case he beats by more than forty percentage points you get to machine code who comes in in second position by and large in the west of the country where i am today's elections when talk relatively smooth me there were some more than four hundred reports of violations but nothing too major the situation was very different in the east of the country where my colleague from now joins us now rio what's happening where you are. both sunday has been
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a tough day for the spot over the country representatives of the self-proclaimed republic off lugansk claims that the ukrainian military has opened fire at one of the local cuff is killing and injuring civilians while we are hearing from you crazy interior ministry that there has been a shoot out at a polling station there and one man was killed at a large scale military operation is now in full swing in ukraine's south and east and this is one of the major reasons behind the decision of many people not only officials to boycott the presidential vote one of the cities keeping its distance from the election was donetsk the authorities there of the turd martial law the authorities in kiev pledged to step up their military crackdown over the next few hours. i earlier and local self-defense forces held a parade in donetsk kiev armed group calling itself the east battalion honored its
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comrades who died in clashes with ukrainian military as you can see here at the volunteer fighters were warmly welcomed by more than two thousand locals the rally was also a show of defiance against some of his presidential election. let's not take a closer look at the man who looks very likely to win the vote or put a shank his fortune is estimated at around one point six billion dollars now he owns a confectionery company and media assets although he's pledged to get rid of all when he takes office politically put a shank that has been on good terms with three successive but very different presidents some of the key points of his c.v. he was head of the budget committee in two thousand and two five years later he became one of the bosses of ukraine's national bank and in twenty twelve he served as economic development and trade minister earlier my colleague kevin owen spoke with foreign affairs experts search of code which expressed diets over whether it
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is the right choice for ukraine. we knew in advance he would get more than fifty percent that's what washington need it right away and that's what he got he was speaking a little bit earlier i just want to play a little grab for a second so what he had to say a bit earlier on. we are ready to negotiate with russia with the participation of the u.s. and the e.u. there are a lot of this juice on the table but there are also issues crucial for ukraine or in particular ukraine will never accept the referendum in crimea so it's not a man that can really have constructive dialogue with russia and vice versa do you think given what he's just said i think he now has to indulge in this nationalist rhetoric for the sake of his audience and his voters in the center in the west of the country has been plex really nothing like his political career to work with people of widely different convictions and political philosophies and programs
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when push comes to shove i think that his first interest is pushing his second interest to support a shrink oh and then comes ukraine and everything else. on the ukrainian election campaign trail the cast list spain eclectic to say the least darth vader and former u.s. secretary of state madeleine albright shared the same space we tell you why and her top ten must know facts about the presidential full. european parliamentary elections have drawn to a close bringing major gains for both euro skeptic and far right movements the results have dealt a blow to governments with the french prime minister calling it a political earthquake peter all of our has more in the development what we're looking ahead to is a parliament in which the majority of the parties campaigned on a manifesto of being unhappy with the way that the e.u.
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would be managed now we've seen gains for far right parties stream li euro skeptic parties all across the board most noticeably though we've seen in the united kingdom in austria in france where a parent has been able to almost talks of the front national policy that had been viewed as as far right as extremist as as anti semitic she's been able to get them it seems a few seats also we're seeing votes for these type of parties in austria as well as in greece and in denmark no this is as i said going all the way across the board in europe as people have voted those that have come out to vote we expect the official turnout to be slightly over the forty percent mark of people that have come out to vote in these elections but yet those that have come out to vote have come out to vote for it seems people leaning slightly to the right or certainly
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euro skeptic parties but those that do end up in office well the next challenges ahead for them and i had a look at what they can expect this. is what it's all about as seats in the european parliament is the result of a long campaign trying to get yourself noticed by the electorate and it's not bad work if you can get it being an m.p. is a truly wonderful job i calculate it with all the expenses that get paid for example that's an average and we will save up iraqi civilians who have euros while living a lifestyle where they can drink champagne every single night the best food travel first class sounds more great gatsby than great statesman with his party's fancy clothes but the e use own figures back up the high life image there is a very interesting figure and cocktail parties per year which more than three hundred and nine hundred thousand euros per year and cocktail parties in brussels
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that is spent another very interesting example is why do why does the e.u. have forty four ambassadors and the caribbean. so the perks seem to be pretty good but what are the working hours like they have a system of the european parliament which is in the cli of the so-so system which we sign on sawed off because all you have to do for that is signing for five minutes and then you get the three hundred euros and the good do whatever you want for those who do stick around the parliamentary chamber can provide a nice relaxing environment for a little snooze a chance to catch up on some reading and for one time to appreciate. artistic photography of course this isn't the way every m.e.p. operates some work tirelessly for their constituents but the amount of money that
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is paid which many european citizens would struggle to earn in a lifetime is leaving some realizing that these emperors aren't wearing any clothes they are living on that. on a different planet the people who pay their salaries what did we have in mind who wanted a single market we wanted to create a highly competitive area and we are far away from that across europe polls have shown an increase in support for parties who've been opposed to the way the e.u. is being run if they return any piece in this next parliamentary session looks like it won't be a place for a bit of peace for all of a. an intriguing insight well this week the world witnessed what's been called the deal of the century russia will supply china with four hundred billion dollars worth of gas over the next three decades and the agreement was twenty years in the making it was touch and go right up to the last minute or been followed those final
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negotiations. the deal was struck it sang high it came to the why of it in the end it was pen to paper yes i'm talking about these it said three the gas from four hundred bins are not seek it natural gas might suit china that would change the face of the global gas industry not the way you do nothing you know that china was a bargaining. process to get to come from my to it seemed like a win win situation for this right now and it china well it's got a one point three billion people population and i and eighty hungry not exactly why the function has managed to grow at such a level for the last three decades that does come at a cost michael says place thusly pollution the at it's very thick and that's because the country relies very much on coal for seventy percent of its energy supply it's war i'm all in. need outsource all that it's something that we have got
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to do is to have a p.c. on the back find until to the bank of china to do business in their own currency that is not me significant of the moment because we know that both countries are trying to move away from dependence on the u.s. dollar as well as the euro has been a free lucrative time here and sang life very exciting time and it's all about the strategic business relationship between russia and china which right now is a force to be wrecked. in fact let's take a look at the steel all valid groundbreaking daily agreement covers a thirty year period and china will be receiving russian gas at the same price as europe overall it has the potential to become the largest energy agreement in history with an estimated four hundred billion us dollars transporting such a vast volume of gas is no easy task though the cross border infrastructure won't be fully ready until twenty eight d. two pipelines are already in place another couple are either plugged. or under
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construction one is here in siberia on the other is in russia's far east but it will send gas all the way to volleyball stocks liquid natural gas terminals which can then be shipped anywhere in the pacific we asked our guests about the wider implications of the deal if you lock the front door make sure the back door is locked as well and i think in this case the west is forgotten to lock the back door so whilst they have actually imposed sanctions on russia russia is sort of saying to the rest of the well ok you know you can lock the front door but i have a back door as well and the back door in this case is china so really i mean the west is that city pushed russia into doing a deal with china so on the one hand you know this is an economic deal but on the other hand it's also a political deal a western energy companies that are trying to develop in russia would love to develop in asia and and suddenly it's now the russians and the
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chinese and i think those companies are very worried about being cut out of that particularly the european companies this deal is something that is is really going to reverberate it's going to have global ramifications i mean if it gets into it india brazil on the rest of the brics countries as well. there was another goal inside for russia and china in some petersburg this week to. push them to do when the deal with china comes to fruition it will become russia's biggest gas consumer along with germany but should the second project on the so-called western route be realizable china will undoubtedly take first place that's what president putin revealed to the international media during the final day of the gathering we have more from st petersburg a little later. indeed and much more coming up right after a short break.
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we think about why we think there are no. sand beaches. coconut palms gently swaying in the ocean breeze. and frank. why he has a deep dark little secret a secret the u.s. government would like you to know about. through our labor. bilbo i did daily associated kagan all with. his. economic record take part. i.
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got some. comments now like and. what if the. signs. come back and let's start on a sporting it seem again russia has won the world hockey championships with a hard for the. but winning with a five two scoreline in the final in ballard bruce. and moscow st celebrations broke out after the final whistle but as the victory well it marks a dramatic turnaround for team russia just a few months ago finland dubbed the might of the winter olympics in sochi russia stepped up its game for the tournament in means of feeding the defending champion
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sweden in the semi's and then it took a come from behind performance against the fins to claim gold team stars alex ovechkin. got on the scoresheet it's the fourth time that russia has won the world hockey championships in the past seven years. the ukraine crisis meant some business leaders stayed away from the annual international economic forum and some petersburg this week president putin hosted the event and had plenty he wanted to clarify regarding sunday's elections in ukraine putin stress that russia respects the will of the people there and will continue working with the new authorities but for dialogue to begin he say's leadership must stop shooting its own people in the east of the country western sanctions the presidency's haven't had a great impact on the russian economy instead he warned that they may have a boomerang effect damaging the very countries that implemented them but many at the forum say the restrictions won't affect their dealings with russia. i saw this
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morning in zero four on some president c.e.o. of french company and german too and you know the states say don't go too much too so bad as well but does it say we are their soul that is it proves that you know we do what we want so the economy is stronger than politics in the western world but we understand what the sell in interest is that relations between the race share our company is so long. and has to stay on this long term partnership it is in the interest of both of our company and of us and i know that for russia to europe is very important so i'm sure that this with asian would be maintained over years the idea is that if if companies leave now i think it will be very hard for them to risk their wish themselves at some point in the future for the ones who do stay clear messages that. they're in the box they have the most opportunities long term and and i think generally people expect that things will whichever as they
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have done a couple times already. silicon valley tech titans are turning on the government asking it to be honest about what's being watched google facebook and microsoft are among those the mounding their customers right to know just how much they're being snooped on our team has more on. the movement goes global genetically modified food taste in your details the march against monsanto held across five continents just the way. the world discover this week the identity of the second country almost all its phone calls siphoned off by america's ma spying program afghanistan is the mysterious country x. which had its domestic and international conversations topped by the n.s.a. just like the bahamas did. from wiki leaks made the revelation on friday but not all whistleblowers were happy about it journalist glenn greenwald who is known for
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facilitating edward snowden's revelations had refused to specify who country x. was even though he was quick to reveal the first said he was. innocent people could die in afghanistan if it were known accuse greenwald of censorship and went public about afghanistan being widely monitored earlier my colleague kevin owen talked to the director of the center for investigative journalism but how dangerous such revelations truly are. it's been used in the past to denounce anybody who had information of this kind you're putting lives at risk you'll have blood on your hands all those sorts of arguments none of which turned out to be true and in fact in all the asuncion releases which were huge and voluminous in the of those of us it was the government claimed that all they'll be thousands of dead people it'll be a terrible disaster and of course not a single person was hurt let alone killed by all those disclosures you think anyway
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maybe greenwalt could have been pressured to keeping it quiet not coming out with a name afghanistan i don't know it's a good question that many people are asking that what he's done is quite surprising but again we have no evidence of that we know that he's got a proper to cutely curious financial world nation ship with a very very rich man who's financing his operation. but so far this is the first hint we've had that there might even be a problem of some kind of other met we haven't heard anything. after the break meet the peaceful parra dice hawaii used to be before it was annexed by the us.
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why do candidates use smear tactics to get in office because it works if all that mattered about a candidate were their positions they would just hand out piece of paper with the guy's positions on them but that's not how it works people make choices based on emotions whether they are buying a can of pop or selecting their candidate it's the packaging that counts heck obama won at ages marketer of the year for one of his campaigns yet image is everything but in texas one hopeful for the lieutenant governor's chair has used arrivals of medical records against him the incumbent david do hearst has been able to use the medical records which were released by another candidate who dropped out to make his opponent look crazy because he was at a psychiatric hospital twice with round the clock observation for severe depression now is it ok to use this info in a campaign maybe the public should know if someone is crazy legally it's probably ok and yet it works but is this hypocritical all of us are guilty of something and if you take our worst moments as a person then you could make anyone look evil this is the tactic of the week with
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nothing to offer the public so they hide behind slander they just want the position of power and nothing more but that's just my opinion.
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we've been talking about how we're going to do things but now we're up buying ideals that we've been bringing up at the table at the monocoque on allies for the last thirty conventions and it's going to pan out pretty good i think it's been a long time coming. to get to this point where we're at today where we can actually reclaim and issue awards we did a lot of preparations to get to this point and not ever actually here it's. it's a little overwhelming exciting. we have built a case. it's hard to argue with you know we're dealing with the de facto government backed by the united states and so we're up against some heavy hitters you know the shark case i should be so.
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the. he has never. done i can only wish that we don't we have not worked. with. all those. because you cannot get. if you don't put the work. where we are at. work tomorrow we. start the stuff.
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we have legislated. resolution in our constitution we brought our constitution to modern it from eighty ninety three and brought it forward to modernize it that was our kick a lot of the language was our kids we had to modernize it first of all so we give as little as possible that's another thing that happened was that legislators who were elected were charged with. creating a constitutional convention in the year two thousand and one to modernize the constitution and to really to really beside what style of government. yeah. you. know full hawaiian governments legislative branch is divided into seven districts
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each one as a representative and a noble according to the ancient traditions of the archipelago in this branch young and old take it without distinction. so we look at being ahead of the curve in a sense you know there are a few other members of the government itself that may be my age or younger however . i guess what it comes down to is having being called old for my age for some time yes i know there's a lot of folks my age who have a basic understanding of the issue i guess i guess in the sense i find myself ahead of the curve in comprehending the moral obligation that in companies you know the historic facts now you're going to see more of our generation getting involved with the home plate and moving our culture and getting involved in the politics. just in different pathways i think and then on the flip side i think. outside of the name
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appliance within our education to how they use. it it has become more of a sport i think and. it's a cool place to come and work for two years and get their get their trailers and then me wanting to leave. the t.v. will be you know there. are. good what i'm good here today. is the day we waited for. we were always. said it only on god's time will we do this well today's god's time where we're going to put the people back on our way he very spot. thirteen years ago. we
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asked god to help us. and the rest our bread minister said that there was. a one eyed dog bowl or oh. everybody was waiting for us to bring one cannot go. through dead beat. it is a way to put the government together and we asked god right here at the very spot where we sit. oh. yeah. you know why am i saw a lady so you know why i always say the word fall be elated it how or that. all they do is happy very very happy. because where i get it to
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put all people back on the land that they us had. through. d.c. you know whatever you call it i took out people in. the job was to be the destitute . and a problem that we're having is that they're not fulfilling their obligations they're continuing to ignore deny us and that's one of the most difficult things when rid of victims of this hypocrisy but the people on the payroll if you deny us access to all lands that they say they gave us all back which we never received it to the monies that they say they've given us we don't you could receive and this has been going on one hundred twenty years away in national small that there is
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a process now world. for conducting our reforms fighting. for reclaim lands national lands. during the awful hawaiian governments convention prime minister henry never gave land titles to groups of people with them. that simple ceremony means the beginning of a new chapter in their lives because such land a situated in an area affected by volcanic activity in fact it does not belong to anyone it is barren land where ten settlers and their families will build up their future. plans to. demonstrate that this is oakley zero zero and at the side what have.
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i did talk to each. of. us that. sunday and. for the see in the streets are. now what got us a chance now we have focused on them so instead of going far out they feel miles away from home now we can just walk up here. and. it didn't matter how we were all. built to look to help appeal to the above good deed they mean modern. love this this one life this is a community center where a community can meet you know you can come in have a cuckoo not old elders do crafts have the younger ones learn etiquette you know hawaiian etiquette learn how to make medicines learn how to how to do medical
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techniques learn language skills and you know every anything the community needs any kind of education as a whole it can come to this hot spot and then of course tourists who walking through it can always visit anybody who wants to know welcome to come. money go. one of the activities of the law for a while in government is poverty relief a wise image of prosperity with its luxury of shops and expensive cars the most
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expensive state of the united states exists in stark contrast with the poverty in which hundreds of people who live. long to try to ten census found that thirty three percent of families with children under five years of age live in a state of poverty. the postcard image of hawaii contradicts the every day reality of the inhabitants of the uk abella get. what you see here are all me is all homeless village that was established in. two thousand and nine this is adjacent to why and i poke i be bold harbor the boat harbor is right here this campsite is right here well these people have been able to do is stay out of the public parks which their presence in occupying public parks seems to interfere with the tourists
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and the government does not like interference with cash flow in any sort so this area here is called a b. . and we're going into the bush is adjacent off to the harbor. this i heard of this is where most majority of the homeless people they got also from the beaches they've relocated to this area here and. we've have all of our history of these homeless people oh been in there has been increasing in large numbers. i came here in two thousand and ten in two thousand and nine is actually when we became house less i would not say homeless because we're not homeless we always are home to sign as are. we became house this in two thousand and nine as a greenhorn at it on when you are to go camping and that's what i took and from their own kind of we. hit recession back in two thousand and nine seven incomes
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five loss couldn't continue our home gave up our home back then we began living amongst the house this people and we learned a lot and in from there we got swept in. back in march two thousand and ten. most of these people that here started from here from this camp going that we have been here for a while where this tree is right here this very tree is. in there but they're cleaning up they're trying to clean up and stuff yeah a lot of was so are we understand that we are going to gets what's a lot of us are doing spring cleaning right now sort of people who come to sweep and sweep everybody out here as it was a police department what a sheriff's department basically why not offer basically what happens is a key the state from what we understand what was told to me was that the state is
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not in the business to do sweet. but the state will go ahead because of the least a half to go ahead and do a lot of the what is required by law we just to clean up that before they leave great not to do with the street but. but he has no way to deal with the nights where. local. we speak your language will not advance. music programs and documentaries in spanish what matters to you breaking news a little tonnage of angles keep these stories. for you here. detroit altie spanish to find out more visit i to al it all tito is calm.
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this is still one of the most isolated and mysterious places in the world old legends of cannibals make many people afraid to travel here are they going to put us on the menu the europeans have been here for less than a hundred years few people know what secrets lay hidden within these forbidding mountains. they said a bunch of cannibals killed in a group of shamans a russian plane and one of the biggest in the world flies as a pup when they get these wild mountains for the very first time. villages have never even seen a come. what will they make of this huge steel but. european workers are told never to venture out alone. truths and myths oh nutsy. it was a. very hard to make a. once again on here was
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a flat out lie that never had sex with that hurt their feelings. let's. play a. clip of a piece. from tragedy so far for merely an attempt to legitimize current political realities this is how many see ukraine's presidential elections after all this country already had an elected head of state in this election when millions they're not
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even put dismayed begin to tackle ukraine stimulus plan. but the denial of their rights the poverty and the marginalized nation under which they live on not the only problems faced by hawaiians there is a threat that hangs above their heads it puts it in jeopardy very existence war. for the united states ally is not only being an archipelago with commercial and economic interests these islands in the middle of the pacific ocean a part of a strategic military structure on august sixteenth eighteen ninety eight four days after why it became a part of
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a nation the united states army became an important part of the island community since then under the impact up to world wars in the korean conflict the army i know why has expanded enormously. today the hawaiian islands represent a multimillion dollar base of operations for american defense forces in the pacific ocean area. in fact the united states discovered the strategic and military importance of hawaii long before its settlers managed to get it and it's in one thousand nine hundred three. major general john scofield arrived on a walk through in one thousand nine hundred seventy two his mission was to find a military use for the island seaports general schofield found the seaports were perfect for the growing united states navy and that the land between the y. and i and colao mountain ranges was ideal for ground forces. the american spanish
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war for the control of puerto rico guam and the philippines sped up the annexation for the americans why was a crucial stronghold for his military campaign. built in one thousand nine hundred became the main united states naval base in the pacific during the second world war on the morning of the seventh of december one thousand nine hundred forty one the japanese if was exposed to vulnerability you know why. i was. nine years old when the. app into
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a japan came by and no bomb thrower that was a very memorable day for may particularly i didn't find out the structure after. everdeen was said and done. when i went home to my grandparents' home i see it all a hole. in a roof where the planes came over and straight. do united states military presence in hawaii constitutes a constant danger but the very existence of the archipelago. why is the military outpost it's got every branch of the us military army navy air
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force marines and there are unknown amounts of nuclear weapons you've got nuclear submarines you've got nuclear aircraft carriers you've got nuclear silos with intercontinental ballistic missiles those missiles are directed at targets all around the world there are literally billions of people under threat from the missiles that are based here in hawaii literally right here is pacific command which is one of the keystones one of the one of the major bulwarks of the american empire the pacific command in its own mind has jurisdiction over half of the world this includes china russia asia most all of the pacific south america central america this is a huge section of the human population that has nuclear missiles and nuclear weapons that are directed at them from hawaii if we were to enter into a third world war and if nuclear weapons were launched there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that hawaii will be majorly target targeted by america's enemies
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specifically china and russia directed at hawaii because of american presence but it's a significant number and rest assured there's no question that if there was a nuclear war and missiles were sent here there would be so many missiles that there would be nothing left of hawaii. the him. potence of the american war machinery in hawaii is not highly strategic in reality the economy of why a depends a great deal on the united states military structure according to the rand institute of defense studies the military economy oh hawaii constitutes at least eighteen percent of its gross domestic product wouldn't twelve billion dollars a year. military industrial complex. be number one. here in hawaii. everybody thinks terrorism is. too tied to do. so that's what drives our economy so it's very difficult to even
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have one discussion about withdrawing some of terry presents because our economy is so dependent on. the united states takes advantage of valleys mountains and sees to use them as a training camp for its troops. at the same time the united states offers its hawaiians twelve for the training of foreign troops. the american military presence in hawaii has caused serious damage the environment
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of the island. according to the pacific health dialogue there are seven hundred sixty eight contaminated sites in hawaii. this contamination is caused may need by the deterioration of ammunition the presence of meth yury lead napalm radioactive rubbish and radioactive fuel. in two thousand and eight going to how it killian admitted that it was in breach due radium and why but he argued that there was no danger for the population to. know. the winds are against the u.s. military presence because it goes against the desire to remain neutral they demand
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independence and also the withdrawal of the military from the islands. the military absolutely needs to go i mean for one thing you need compromises are neutrality you know we made it a point to stay out of the rest of the world's conflicts because i mean who has a problem with the war with the hawaiians for one thing i mean. from my personal perspective ideally what i think it should be is that all why should be a neutral buffer zone between the chinese policy and the american heart terry buildup here is certainly something we. discussed a lot by many people it's almost become so normal that i think some people don't realize how prominent the military is why. high living cost cultural alienation and military threats are the direct result of
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the presence of the united states and why despite all of that those hawaiians who have decided to reclaim what was taken from their ancestors more than a century ago i'm not. edge to surrender. my efforts for being involved with this process of reinstatement is i'm trying to get back to being a lawful person. to the law but you see here today is a charade it's all it's a big old hollywood production is what is going on and hollywood those real well in fabricating identities and whatever else may be i guess what it comes down to is well for me personally. having been aware of the all of the wrongs our perpetrated our like all well over a century ago part of it has to do with for me making sure that. you know that the
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good the world the torch these lives i think you're going to get mixed feelings for sure but it's hard i think that as this movement grows there's going to there's going to be that shift and i hope instill some sort of hold of. i can't participate in something that is a gift to my generations to come. and it can be it can be not in that space of anger i think we've got the body in place we're going to demonstrate that we're real. here in hawaii and no we don't take this real nice to the world and not a mole this is why we executed to reclaim what is rightfully ours which is sovereign authority and reclaiming our land putting subsidies to all sovereignty crosses. free independent. once again will be
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a reality we're going to make that possible through law and in the military the u.s. military good leader. yes go back to north america follow the rules. exert a rule your daily. breeze . the whole knows where. to nudge america. commando was thrown in the
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last you so long and so people. want to bag. you back the lack of them bring. you back back at them never. get over it. you. got them by your policies all we want is sovereignty it's so hard to believe. this is all go and see who's sleeping in the palm tree removed. first say the war was over with the way the ocean for a promotion bit wait till you get sued the suit for what you know he's proud of that of the hospital you. can and i'm broke i told you the swear.
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to match. your member on the phone last minute superman to give you bad. to get your. ticket back up. right. now see. that god. if you drive people away from the dollar many people now it must be sitting there saying gosh if we have u.s. dollars and the u.s. decides they don't like us they're going to put sanctions on us so people can more and more people would say maybe i should use the u.s. dollar. will do it one time an abortion before this creature looks like he may be. my
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career is going pretty well at the moment i've got a loving and caring partner who understands my situation. and definitely is in the right time. and i need something about it. on an annual show common in washington d.c. making new knowledge face time to time you know.
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pleasure to have you with us here on our t.v. today i'm wrong researcher. from tragedy so far for merely an attempt to legitimize current political realities this is how many see ukraine's presidential elections after all this country already had an elected head of state in this election when millions not even participate begin to tackle ukraine's enormous problems.
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italy demands explanation from kiev over the killing of one of its journalists in eastern ukraine while a russian t.v. crew revealed the death threats and abuse they faced during their detention by the army. ukraine's become the king the third himself and winner of the presidential race after exit polls. over fifty seven percent of the vote alexion which eastern regions refused to take part amid the ongoing military crackdown there. in twenty one e.u. nations have cast their votes on the final day of the grippy and parliamentary election but the exit poll showing huge gains for your. far right plus. i had to close guantanamo was a tough old will be close by.

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